One of them.
I don't worry about that at them beginning of flipping between me sharing my screen and go back to the slideshow.
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Just [inaudible] on it.
To be on the first bit.
So thing because we're doing when we're doing the software demonstrations, there were accompanying slides.
So we need to show the slide, do the software, their mouth and then jump back in.
So the slides for the next one.
So we've got chloro claro dragon.
There isn't one for Zoom text, but mine I can do that is you can just share the presentation with me.
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You're color blind.
Yeah, sorry.
Okay.
If you use ISOS, a colors, if you go, like a red or green, or orange it doesn't see them, but just under which one it would be.
So it's best to go fill out a primary other primary color.
So a blue is always good make a blue color happily, but greens and reds.
I will get confused with it.
It's caused a lot of trouble, a traffic lights over the years.
[inaudible] another so green, the color that is difficult.
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Switched to you on camera.
It's also about barrier myself as a sharing, great talent as well as just okay.
So as I just given me the ability to share my screen, so another icon.
Can do this.
Bring the screen up, the way they to flip back from the screen back to the PowerPoint again.
So it's going to be, we get this are going to be a bit of that where we flip between the two.
I'm doing chloro dragon mine.
It may.
 that the presentation is, you know, [inaudible] what are the requisite slides for each of the different bits of software?
So I need to shower slide talk about, show the demo slide.
 and I saw that younger let's just think about this.
So we're going to share your [inaudible], going to share the cyan hell and the presentation up.
And let's see what happens.
Is it the version, that Barry said?
The last one, yeah, because that's got the colors on it.
In the corners.
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And then I hit.
So now you should see my screen.
If I stopped [inaudible] what happens then is you go back to you or do you have to re-share it so you're going to have to reshare it [inaudible] right?
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So.
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So we've got slide so many the, the slide to talk about the software before we demonstrate it and this is going to be., slide [inaudible] The reason why is a.
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Can we get Kim?
To manage this slide?
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[inaudible] talk a bit about the actual captioning options.
Because it's important for them to know.
And it is very important for meeting so I will.
talk about Verbit and the top that we can actually start generating more interest for Verbit as well  so I can keep switching like this to the person.
 or not [inaudible] you can't switch off your camera.
That's probably a good idea.
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[inaudible] it's up to.
You if you feel that way.
Because.
I'm going to find control in the presentation.
It's just going to.
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I think he should move this banner back a little bit so we get a little bit more of the words because we've got the against the wall.
It's not going to move it any further back.
He came back up, gone on.
Next week to do some [inaudible] training..
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Anyway to move it back a little bit.
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I have a high I just needed back little bit rather than completely new., maybe that's better.
I cannot see the microlink unless you tilt is screen a bit.
[inaudible] towards the radiator, You got put it closer to the radiate to.
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Yeah.
And then I talk about the housekeeping.
Let's talk about down a little bit more than kind of said terrible.
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To the public, they're going to now get to know body.
The Clark.
And he kept never Kimberly panic like [inaudible] funny yeah.
It doesn't adapt well.
 to people laughing at him while planning.
Okay.
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Bye-bye.
Okay.
We are going live now.
Everyone.
Recording in progress.
What we can just like people have to have.
People are tiny and up now, 11 12.
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And everybody can hear you now.
So more come on.
We'll give them you see a minute?
Couple of minutes until everyone joined.
Well, my [inaudible] hen.
Everything by email.
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 remember to take the share and then I will make a start.
 good morning, everyone.
My name is [inaudible] some of you met me and it's a great pleasure to present to you today the first of our four theories about how to make what [inaudible] place.
Inclusive and how to help employers to get the best out of their employees.
This came about from interaction between our son, Mark Antony, who was present today.
So and we want to provide a level of training that gives rate.
The awareness of what's possible so that the [inaudible] members can inform the employee that employee the options open to them if they encounter disability or health condition as a barrier for performance or indeed if the end up having conflict.
And what place to start with let me start in some housekeeping.
We really wanted it to be very as courteous meeting so we would like everyone to participate and hopefully we'll be able to answer all your questions.
At the end.
Today.
But beforehand, if you have any need for captioning, we have captioning available today from our partner company Verbit.
If you go to the bottom of the screen, there is a closed caption option.
If you click on that and you will get the option, show subtitles.
Now, this is important.
There is a 10 second delay between what we say and what appears on the caption because what Verbit do is to make sure everything said is accurate to 99 percent accurate.
So there's somebody behind the scene, generate it automatic [inaudible] and then corrected.
Now, verbit is very unique in that offering, because, the alternative to this kind of caption just like pattern type is, which are one very expensive.
And two very difficult to arrange short notice and the capacity issue so if you ever have to have meetings which has to be captioned because the to comply with the accessibility requirements and reason [inaudible] all your meeting.
have to be captioned.
You could either use automatic captioning, which is offered by the Teams or Google Meet, which, is not as accurate as some people needed or use other methods.
Similar to Palin type is obviously, very to the very good hybrid that it's a lot much lower cost.
At the same time, it gives you all the accuracy want.
So that's said, we can actually start looking at what is it that we're trying to address today?
The whole conversation about regional [inaudible].
A very hard.
For a lot employees.
They don't understand, they don't understand if they have a problem to begin with.
They may not basically know if Dave have a problem if there's a solution.
And again, the third part of the third group, they know I have a problem.
They know that.
But they think it's going to cost a lot of money.
So we're kind of arranging this sessions for you to kind of bust oldest myth.
One.
The problem with disabilities, not tiny fringe.
A high number of employees do suffer from health conditions that under the legal definition is classified as disability.
Number 2, there's a range of solutions for any condition, so people with multiple conditions can also have solutions to help them to become more productive of work.
And of course, we're not just talking about we are talking about well-being.
One part of your hailing failing to fulfill your employment kind of obligation, leach into other breakdown of your cognitive and mental health and all the rest of it.
So we don't really just take this out.
You cannot your job, your employer is happy, bit you actually helps your.
Well-being it, it gives you purpose.
So, all the solution that would be offering, showing you today it here to overcome all the barriers people face because of the health condition.
And again it's important to put this in a context.
We can't kill people's disabilities or not we want to.
It's not disability.
Fact of life.
It will affect all of us eventually, if you're not disabled, now, we will be.
When would become disable that we have a long-term health conditions.
It stops us doing the things you're used to be able to.
For that, there's a range of interventions and those are often in the form of technologies, assistive technologies to be precise.
So what we're doing here to begin with, show you a range of solutions for a range of conditions.
So you can actually use your imagination.
What is possible.
That being said, when you're dealing with employers, I think very few excuses why they can't help an employee to actually get back on their feet and perform the task.
Instead of giving up on them and put them on performance management or worse, still trying to get rid of them, especially post COVID.
When people come back to work and some of the disable colleagues may not have had their active role working from home because they have not had the adjustments.
So when they come back and there's a decision to be made about who goes on, who stays.
Sadly, they're the ones who actually come from up the list because a look at performance index, okay, you're not done.
You haven't done that well over the past year, so perhaps we need somebody more productive yet, if they have their help and adjustment, they won't be in that position.
Anyway I don't want to talk too long about that.
I'm going to let out to colleagues called wall.
And Barry con convert of these laws.
[inaudible] colleagues working for Microlink and very experienced in the, in fact, the most experienced people in industry I would say that the combined experience have about 50 years between them.
They don't look that old, but they really have been in the business [inaudible] introduced.
[inaudible] and let them take away the and then we'll come back at the end of the session to discuss about some of the practical solutions.
What you need to do in terms of getting solutions to the employees who need this and way over to you, Carl and Barry.
 Good morning, everybody.
Welcome to the presentation.
Thanks very much for that introduction.
Space.
Today's session.
If you might want to talk about the company itself, necessarily if you wanted to talk over this slide as far as what we do with that?
Yeah.
 absolutely.
Again, just the very pay her by microwaving [inaudible] been operating in the disability spatial [inaudible] here.
Never 92 with stablished we've held up, put them.
0.5 million people but in higher education and in place.
Workplace we have huge decline tells some of them multinational we provide them and tie and to, and [inaudible] what we call y plus judgment or reasonable adjustment by in the university sector, we helped to say with students with disabilities to do that.
Core shadow with supporting throughout the full five-year journey.
And also help employers with recruitment practices.
We also provide guidance, advice, and intervention for accessibility where it's physical accessibility or digital accessibility, is are all part of the require legal requirements.
For every company to have an impact, future sessions will deal with those aspect separately.
And, you know, for for what we've done over the past 30 years, we've got unparalleled experience of making the whole workplace adjustments seamless extremely low cost and very, very efficient.
But that it for another day anyway, thanks again.
And over to you  So could you go back one slide, please?
Well, on called words I'm head of training and an on-site.
Staff on-site staff or so is the workplace assessment that we have.
My cooling so we have a number of assesses throughout the country in the UK, who will go out and visit individuals with a need and we will assess what things we can put in place to help those individuals and also responsible for the training team.
The Assistive Technology Training team.
So again, another team that.
So I look after of trainers who go out and some of the various technology that you're going to see today my [inaudible] go out there.
Important thing the training perspective.
Many individuals forgets about the triune aspects.
Whilst this technology is fantastic, really can't make a great deal of difference to individuals without the training.
It really isn't going to be as effective.
It's like giving someone a hammer and a chisel and saying, go and make a chair and a table, if you've never touched one of those before.
So we really need to give that training is it makes the intervention really, really powerful, if they're trained on how to use it within their environment that they're working on as well.
So is very, very powerful thing today.
Barry, can you introduce yourself?
Hi, I am very relevant.
Here.
Devaluating test all the products we sell as well as some assessments, some training.
I work, on of a specialist in visual impairments software as well.
So they're not aware of with jaws and yeah, I worked for the, company for about 24 years now.
I'm quite familiar with a lot of as is the technology.
 okay.
Thank you so what are we going to talk about in this session today?
Is we're going to be talking about assistive technologies.
So technologies that we can use to help somebody with a disability or health condition is necessary to to enable them to do their jobs and some of it really is very powerful in the way that we could use it, particularly when it comes to things like Jaws, which Barry will be showing you, which enables a blind individual to use their computer before that, really, it was impossible for a blind person to use a computer.
But now we've got some amazing which actually will the label that blind individuals to use their computer as effectively in some cases actually more effectively than sighted individual.
So we're going to be looking at those softwares first, I'm going to be going through a number of different software.
We could install onto somebody's computer.
And I'll describe to you about how those work and give you some demonstrations.
We're gonna be looking at portable lights as well.
So things that you can carry around with you that you're unable you to be agile and mobile.
And work in different locations and then we're going to also look at again, starting with the current situation where everybody's been working from home, lots of people have been developing health conditions from an economic perspective.
And show you some things that are fairly simple things that we can actually put in place that will help individuals feel more comfortable, more productive.
Please so I'm going to start with one particular places, but let me explain a little bit about.
The sorts of individualized slightly to use this, I'm going be looking at Claroread.
And this is literacy and language piece of software.
It's very effective text to speech system, and it's often going to be used by somebody who is has a new diverse condition.
So conditions such as dyslexia, where someone may have a difficulty in reading large proportions of texts.
But many other cognitive problems as well.
Generally, if you have a difficulty in reading, can also be used for people who have English as a second language.
As well.
You'll see the tools here that we have that allow us to help with reading and writing process.
So I'm just going to share my screen here a second.
And bring up.
So you should see on your screen at the moment the toolbar, at the top second is just the zoom bars in the way in which this other way.
[inaudible] up in the covers.
There.
Was the and we got done it.
My type.
So chlorate itself is a toolbar.
Lots of assistive technologies that we see.
Often tend to be till about the add-on.
So your existing environment, we're not asking you to use a completely different operating system and environment to do your task.
You're still using Microsoft Word in this particular instance as everybody else.
But this to about 0 house set of very useful.
Things that are going to enable you to read and write.
I'm sure many of you are familiar with text to speech systems now.
We have in our phones the many other things.
Alexis.
And all sorts of things like that.
So back to it.
It is something that we're all very used, to but this does something quite unique, really I suppose within a Word document in this by so if I select a piece of text area or the beginning of a piece of text and press play.
[inaudible] users often scroll the page quickly and look for big, bold text here.
So.
 you can see there that it's reading that text out to me.
Really does help.
They help to hear that facts text a really powerful tool for many people to be able to digest that information rather than reading it from the screen.
Suddenly for those with your diverse condition, where often seeing lots and lots of words and lines of text in front of them can be quite overwhelming.
Confusing absorbing that information may take a lot longer.
Well, reading and re-reading text over.
I'm to see it.
And hear it at the same time.
And you'll notice that the sing there is where we have the text highlighted.
So being able to highlight is that we can follow along a line and have the text read out.
So as.
Incredibly powerful, we can change the way that it's raised things out as well, both from the voice that we use, but also been up to change the way that it looks as if I choose this option here, focus sentence.
It will change the way that this works now.
So again, some, many individuals will find lots of text presented to them on the screen.
Very difficult to read and find that position.
So when we're using chlorine in this position, this particular feature.
A uniform heading structure is often the most important accessibility consideration in Word documents marked when encounter a lengthy Word document, sighted users often scroll.
So you can see hides all of the text away, and you're just seeing what is being read it really does help you to focus it good for [inaudible] notice that I've actually got a word mark in here for some reason, I don't know why.
I can write that out.
As I was reading it through spelling errors.
Now that the spelling helper that we have within Microsoft Word, we will probably use it but often the problem with the spelling help for individuals with reading difficulty.
Is you get a whole host of different words presented to.
You don't really know which is the right word to choose.
So [inaudible] gives us a facility here with the check function where we can click on Check for that word that's misspelled.
And it gives us an advanced spell checker that gives us a lot more health.
So I can hear the word for us, for start consideration.
But over here I've actually got the dictionary definition of that particular word that I've selected.
 the process of giving careful thought to something really helped.
 me, but also pictures as well.
So a pictorial representation of that word that you've chosen, consideration to be corrected and then lastly, if the source so you're looking for some other words that you might well want to use in place of that word.
It will suggest many other words that could be used in place.
And all I do is press to change, and it changes it within the text.
There were any other features built-in ClaroRead as well, which we can use.
I'm not going to work within the time we have to go through them all.
But lots of things to help us find words, to help with confusable.
Word predictive text.
Changing the colors of the screen as well, which again, we can don't think that it shows three ones.
So.
This puts a layer across this range of color, which again for many years averse, individuals, it's been found that actually changing the color, rather than having the white background, and black text can be really helpful to focus again on that text.
So it has a totally [inaudible] view which allows us to do that.
So that's power rate.
I'm just going to move back to the presentation [inaudible] can you bring the slide back up again is?
That can you do that from that?
Fantastic.
Thank you very much.
And the next slide place.
So another tool that we could use for somebody with a neurodiverse condition is voice recognition.
[inaudible] Speaking.
But this is actually very useful for many individuals, not just 12 people that might have a difficulty in writing.
It can actually be used for people that have ability problem as well.
So if you're not able to type on the computer and they in the traditional sense, then [inaudible] is going to allow you to not only not use the cable, but actually operate the computer hands-free.
So let me show you this one.
So bring this one back.
So let me just give you a very quick demonstration of this again, many of you may well have seen this before.
Which I can invoke.
So if I press the button here, welcome to this demonstration of Dragon Naturally Speaking, full stop.
To start off with, I would like to show you how quick, easy, and accurate Dragon Naturally Speaking is full stop.
With the very little in the way of voice training.
I can achieve accurate results and get my ideas into the computer using voice alone.
Homer, and much faster than typing.
Stop.
Many people struggled to type 30 words per minute with Dragon I can type up to a 160 will stop.
New line.
Dragon also never makes a spelling mistake, exclamation mark.
So even if I have difficulty in spelling words like Pharmaceutical, as long as I can say it.
Dragon should recognize it.
Full stop, Smiley face.
So you see that there really is very quick, very accurate nowadays.
And as I said, there.
But somebody that might struggle from the perspective of being able to get their thoughts and ideas into the computer via the keyboard.
But [inaudible] when it comes to spelling.
But they're still very able to explore.
Themselves verbally.
Dragon really does take a lot of that problem away as far as spelling is concerned.
I mean, I would trouble I have to think twice about spelling something like pharmaceutical, but just saying I spell it so really, really does help me to be become much more productive in that way.
From the hands free perspective, let me just show you very quickly how that works.
New line.
Hands-free usage will stop underline that.
Scratch that.
New line.
Drag.
It also enables us to use our computers without touching the mouse or the keyboard full stop.
Click Insert.
Click Pictures.
Click this device.
Drag and logo.
Click Insert.
Search Google for Winston Churchill.
Click search.
Stop scrolling down.
Stop scrolling.
Click history of Sir Winston Churchill.
Start scrolling down.
Stop scrolling.
Close with [inaudible] so really can do a great deal on the computer just with [inaudible] doing internet searches, I can work my way around the Internet, which is generally a very mouse intensive environment.
That by using commands like click, it will click on a link and take me to the pages and there's many other commands and things that we can do with dragons to enable it to interact with all of the Microsoft Office applications so Outlook, excel, Word that will work very, very nicely with Dragon, and we can, for some of them might not work quite so well at the box, or able to scripts dragons and magnet work much more effectively.
Hey, we go back to this sludge.
Please have to still on this neurodiverse area that we're talking about in the moment.
Just look at one more application within that sort of area and we'll be talking about my mind mapping is one of my favorite subjects is one of the technologies, the always I'll use myself as a lot of the technologies that we support.
I find this to be really, really useful.
One of the problems I've always had is the blank paper kind of problem if you give me a blank sheets of paper and write me an essay about something or reports about something.
I got spaces of it.
I'm not very good and I must have got lots of ideas and things in my head.
I know that I want to talk about.
I often find it difficult to put those into a of a start, middle and end kind of concept.
So being able to do work with something like on mind map has really enabled me to again be much more productive and unable to get those ideas out into a much, much better format.
Again, let me show you this.
Let me just share my screen and again and so this particular application is called minefield.
There are many others, but this is the one that I particularly like and use myself.
It allows us to create a mind map in many ways..
Some of you may well be familiar with Mind Mapping from that which children often taught within school where, we're writing on a piece of paper.
And often ends up becoming quite a nice piece of artwork in some regards with lots of ideas and pictures and various different concepts.
Which is great, it really does help people work through their ideas.
But the problem with that, which I always found with my map and is that it didn't allow me to take that back and bring it into the real world.
Something that would be useful [inaudible] hand, my boss, a mind map.
Particular project that I'm working on.
He wants to say a normal textual document.
So that's where for me, the mind-mapping on paper really wasn't that useful.
But once we got using my mindmaps within the computer and enable us to today so much more.
And let me show you.
So if I'm just going to create a mind map here.
Let me just as there is, Mind Mapping present a new, one, just brand new and up here.
First thing we have here is the subject.
So it's not a blank piece of information, so when I've got a tight liver projects report, something like that by nature to what the first thing I do is I will put in that title and the talk about something very topical.
Issue like talking about the whether I press Enter.
And now.
What I'll do is just quickly think of all the things about the weather that and I want to talk about so [inaudible] types those ideas into the computer.
And a really good thing for me is I didn't need to think that's the first thing on a to talk about.
That's the last thing that we just as they kind to me into the computer.
Once I have those ideas in the computer and maybe expand upon that a little bit more.
So, if I go to the types of weather and start creating sub-branches, then I can start, adding in more data.
Just now.
And so on in no particular order, but it's helping me to work upon that one idea.
I want to talk about measurements.
So click on measurements.
Again, we can write a sub-branch and we can start typing in what we want to talk about there.
Is we can click on ideas and come up here we can start adding in text notes.
[inaudible] the paragraph that I want to say about Ryan, I can now.
start writing in here into here, and you'll notice that I've got this little bird process here at the bottom.
Toolbar at the top is changed into a very word like looking toolbar.
So now I can start typing something.
Typing and I can use Dragon to do this by the way.
I can write even more about that one thing and this really does help an individual certainly for those with the first conditional tend to lose focus on the thing that they're supposed to be writing, this really does help me because I know that at the moment I'm just though talking about Ryan I'm not talking about any of the other parts.
This one area at the moment and that really does help me to focus whereas I might disappear off on another tangent is I'm working on this mind map.
That's what I would do is I would go through this mind map, adding in my notes as I go as I see them.
As I have the ideas and you'll see here now I've got a little clip that shows me the I have another attached.
I can also use this to add in other things like hyperlink for example.
So if I'd gone to the website here and let's just see if for find a website about UK rainfall [inaudible].
Is a [inaudible].
These everyday, every day, the government side here.
So is, that is a weekly report on to use this within my project not I'm working on at the moment.
So come up to the top and I copy it actually address of this page.
Go back to Mindview and then go to a range of pick one more time to come hire a link.
And then down here, paste that URL and just call this line full stats and now you'll notice that I've got an attachment as well.
Click on that.
And it would take me back to that page.
So it really does allow me to bring all of this information together and again, somebody with something like dyslexia often has difficulty in organize their information and find things up single lots of people with the other.
Everything in one folder of their computer with no real order to looking and finding different aspects of what is the unit for your studies or for your report is of the very difficult.
So but I'm to add things into lesson wife High Plains and links and attachments is incredibly powerful because it will just allow me to do use this like the control center for my projects or SI, or whatever else it might be.
Let me show you one.
Here that I've I've kind of worked through a lot more.
Here's one that life I've already done with lots of details within your notes, [inaudible] paperclips with links in with bits of text here.
So you see this text down there at the bottom so I've been able to put all of those ideas into this mind map and I do [inaudible] are like.
I've then organized this on the clock face.
So the first thing becomes the first thing, the second thing becomes a second thing and so on and I can grab these topics.
And move them anywhere on that clock face.
So allow me to change the order of very, very quickly.
I need to get this out into the real world.
You'd get this into a Word document.
So if I click on word and I'm just going to do a quick word export here it's going to export my mind map with all the information out into a Word document.
And this is the really, really useful parts of using alignment.
Not see this coming to the same thing.
I shared my screen so let me just stop the share for a second.
I'm going to share my whole screen.
And we got so when it's done, here's my Word document or the beginning of just a graphical representation of that.
I then got table of contents.
And here we have my essay or report will written out.
Section by section, including pictures as well.
So really, really is massively helpful way of been able to create documents without having that the I have with the start, middle, and end of an organized things, it's in the computer and that way many other aspects to that as well?
Again, I can't really show you.
So just going to, stop.
Share.
So hello, Can we have.
The slide show?
So most people, suffer as I said, useful for people with newer diverse conditions.
But also for many of us from about activity perspective.
And that's what I like about Many of the assistive technologies.
And as far as software is concerned, but actually many of us can benefit from that As far as reading or writing.
But able to get our ideas is the computer very quickly.
In both the speaking to the computer, but also from the organizational perspective of using a mind map.
But this piece of software here which account demonstrates the because it doesn't really show itself very well over a computer screen through the zoom function.
This is a piece of software called Zoom Text.
And this is for visually impaired individuals.
So somebody who still has an element of sites.
Is able to see the computer quite as well as, others.
And certainly this is it within the workplace.
We see this a lot where obviously much more mature people were being asked to work longer.
Now within the workplace.
And one of the things that tends to the goal for us all is necessary before we'll develop a disability, later on.
Is our eye sight.
Being able to see the screens and the fine text that we have within this range itself.
See [inaudible] as well that have a medical condition as well.
So you will struggle to see the screen.
And so something like Zoom Text allows us to magnify the screen and you can see here down in the bottom right-hand corner, this gentleman here with Zoom text running.
It actually acts like a big magnifying glass across your screen.
So enable you to zoom in and out of the screen.
When you've got that fine prints on the end of a document, or really finding difficult to difficulty to read.
We can zoom in very easily., read that text, and zoom out again to another level.
It also smooths the screen and makes things look really crisp on the screen to which is, great.
Not only that, but it hasn't text to speech function within it as well, which we're using for a different reason.
Whereas before we were looking at Klara rate was a text-to-speech system for maybe a cognitive problem.
Since [inaudible] is there really to allowable that individuals are not have to look at the screen.
So much.
So if you've got that long email that you you need to read by having Zoom Text Reader.
You can get to the document, press play like we saw with our read and you will hear a voice reading that document out to you and you can maybe sit back in your chair and not have to be completely focused upon the screen.
It also gives us an you say there in the middle an actual text reader, which is very helpful.
Again, if you've got a document that's not particularly accessible type face and very small.
You can use this text reader to convert it into your favorite type [inaudible].
At the color scheme that you like, maybe like an inverted scheme like you've seen there and have that information read out to you.
A really, really useful.
It's still by once again, you can see the toolbar here on the left-hand side.
Again, many different functions which I won't go through every single one of them, but it does magnification, it changes the color of the screen.
So we could do it schemes or washes of different colors across the screen.
So many individuals again, looking like the gentleman here on the right-hand side.
That white background with black text [inaudible] if you have a visual problem and in fact, for all of us, it's actually quite tiring and difficult to look at that screen.
Period of time.
So it is helpful to be able to have an inverted scheme that brings the brightness down.
Okay?
So the next slot, so berries going to sort.
So we're talking about visual impairment here.
If we move to the next [inaudible] can I can I guess what thank you five minutes.
Kind of a natural break to go to [inaudible] answer some questions we've got so we'll give the audience some time tool.
So to relax because it's quite intensive for them to continue one another so if you can spend 5 minutes or so to answer some of the questions you've got.
[inaudible] has could drag and naturally speak, can be used as transcription backup for end-users who may find themselves in a webinar without closed captions happens a lot upon late and can you actually do that?
It's not so good at doing that transcription live in that way dragon it can be used in that way.
It tends to work best when you have kind of been speaking to it for a while, it gets used to the sound of your voice and the things that the size, so it can be used.
I have seen it being used for that sort of thing.
But it probably won't tend to do very well as things like punctuation.
So what you'll tend to find is that you'll get a whole block of text without any punctuation within it, which I think is quite a difficult thing to read often enough.
So I wouldn't say there are other systems around there, [inaudible] streamer and alter that probably do a better job of actually doing that sort of thing.
And actually the radius in that I could send you later and apical caption know of course, the Verbit is great if you can pre-plan it, but the extreme upon mentioned, have a module caption or that capture captions all live streams, even if they have an arranged date, it could have this overlay that.
It captures everything and then transcribe it for you.
So that's something with consent second question, Mark Antony.
With Dragon, voice recognition or any recognition would work for a person with a family.
As the at the moment, what you are fully not what you get and could end up with a material that is not appropriate.
As a good question.
Yes there are limitations to dragon as far as that is concerned, but I have seen people with mild to moderate stammers being able to use Dragon it does it does have some programming within it, which is going to disregard some stammering and then we'll make the balance as well.
We'll disregard those often enough.
But there is a limitation to it but, with something like that, I'd always say try it with an individual of Zoom can't promised that that would work is certainly is worth trying and for some people, with a stammer that sometimes that slightly different interaction rather than it being purely spoken conversation, can actually help them with their stammer as well.
Sometimes.
 that question from Anne what, [inaudible] colleague with low vision through [inaudible] I have a colleague who feel digitally excluded for the and elective surgery delay during the pandemic.
Imagine others may be too, yeah.
Yeah.
Yes, it can do to some extent and certainly by a number of things that I would try with somebody with cataracts is changing the color of the screen for a start being one of those inversions games is critically useful because it just that amount of white light.
The fatigue that you get if you're struggling to say with cataracts, it can really help them make the screen would define the magnification function again, yes.
Be really useful.
But lastly, as I split the text to speech function, there, there really is.
It's going to give the a break from having to look at the screen by having things read out to them.
So that's that that would be a good solution.
I care can import.
And one cause maybe you mentioned that you could export that peck on to MP3 player can you expand that when with Cloud?
Or you can [inaudible] audio and then they can listen to it.
[inaudible] Claroread sex have a facility where you can turn a printed document.
Printed document that electronic format document that Word document into a almost like a talking book.
I.
Suppose.
So you can get it to convert into it.
Mp3 formats, which you could then load into your mobile phone and say on the trying and, and listen to that document.
Whilst you move away from your computer  question from Pam, and can [inaudible] into it for languages.
 it doesn't translate.
Although dragon does have various different versions that will recognize either languages, but it won't translate, right?
And I create a streamer.
Again.
Come up earlier that had translation of a life translation up to a 100 languages.
So it's not going.
Cap and captioning platform.
It also allows life translation at the same time, so that something maybe we should give more detail later.
Another question.
The area of mind-mapping looks very useful.
A correct.
And the question is, it on a, for a corporate package or does it come for individuals, a.com for individuals, and price is, quite reasonable.
I think we have to look at that separately.
It's covered by the access to what.
If you are claiming support to matches to work.
These are recommended quite frequently.
And there is one more question.
Dragon Naturally Speaking, be used at the transcription?
Yeah, I've done that one.
Sorry, I'm I'm going to all the questions.
Make sure that would hear the new web access.
Okay, well, it seems that we've covered all the questions in this round one, so this one did I say no, so because of the question about [inaudible] and there's a difference between dragon, and the stream, of the streamer.
The voice engine, if you like, been modified to favor and conversational speech.
So it doesn't jump of, I think, of ignoring and ours possibly.
I haven't tried to get anybody with a standard to use it.
Yeah.
Have you I haven't.
I definitely think it's worth trying and I would maybe contact Mark Antony and try to set up for him and it can bring some of his colleagues that he thinks you can try.
To figure out.
It's a good point so are you ready to move your section battery?
Just been trying to click the stop the feeling of what so many different applications running on my system today, like this.
Yeah, maybe running in the background so.
 this is running [inaudible] you might find that you will come up.
I've got a feeling it's one of the other [inaudible] I need to demonstrate this getting in the way of it.
I mean, okay.
I got comfortable with that camera.
Will find the first one I'm going to talk about.
Think is jaws anyway so it is perfect you Carl for your presentation.
And so Barry over here.
 yes.
I can see that we got the.
Jaws stream either.
Carl has been talking about Zoom text, which is low vision and also has the speech in as well and interesting, I think the same company who owns Zoom tastes, they've also got they also own jaws but they are two separate products evenly combined, kind of like an umbrella version is confusion.
[inaudible] screen reader program on its own is well-suited to people's that are totally blind, or have very, very limited eyesight.
And then it's keyboard driven application.
So you're just going to control the computer with the keys.
There are even keys to emulate the mouse as well.
It can work with most application straight out of the box.
But it also lends itself to customization.
Well I think somebody said something.
Legislation standards and things like that.
It can check web site it can also be customized to work better with websites.
There's quite a lot of different controls that you can use your [inaudible] open up and see if I can share my screen and see if the sound goes over.
It also has support for Brown as well.
So this using the keyboard to control the screen to hear feedback of what you've typed.
You as you may know, when you hear, a message, you sometimes think I did.
I get.
Do I capture it or you can use jaws, keys to repeat text.
You can also use a Braille device to display that text and have a more natural way of reading.
So you can use your finger to run across the braille dots, which is like reading the rising.
Then it allows you to concentrate on maybe listening to a phone call and the big [inaudible] at the same time.
So those supports [inaudible] and don't think.
So in Techstars, I'm wondering if maybe it's a good time to try to share my screen.
Are you said to say go to click, somebody shares to bring it.
Just green on the bottom.
 and then I've got to take this and this box.
Bottom left down.
I'm just trying to know say I'll share my screen actually.
[inaudible] to me to move microlink Google Chrome.
When you know me, navigate a page, you cannot be limited to using the Tab key, maybe [inaudible] as well so if you have to press the tab key, it could take a long, time to go for a web page.
So, you kind of other keywords do that I don't use the arrow keys.
A good website design usually splits the ranges of the pages to headings.
Then you can navigate [inaudible].
 alert downloaded.
Dash PC dash alert.
Now, call it my.
Level two.
As well.
And when you have a you can just press space.
It's a very efficient way of jumping around very quickly.
You can sometimes actually be faster than using the mouse, but it does rely on good [inaudible] about the [inaudible].
And we're off to I'm often assessing websites and having to customize and because it's a lot of people running applications now via web pages and they're also accessing them from remote platforms as well are just as another point, George it is compatible with you running through remote connections.
But you may have to use additional licenses.
And that we're all working from home a lot more now and having the setup set running through remote connection.
So it does work, it just requires a bit more of a setup.
I think and it stopped.
We bring up the next slide [inaudible] later on.
Close This is a preventative software solution to help pay [inaudible] to remind them about posture.
When the sitting in front of a computer working, you may forget.
You're slouching after working on it for a long time.
So this is a piece of software that runs in the background that reminds you to take breaks.
Tracks, how long you've been typing for and then recommend that you stop typing.
Recommend that you look away from the screen.
And it's just something which is monitoring.
How long you're using the computer before it can help you with incentive solution.
So the idea is, if you wanted to take breaks you've got up and you, take a [inaudible] It's got features built into it to kind remind you to take these breaks.
And you can install it on everybody's computer and then monitor activity and hopefully it is support people so that they don't end up working and then becoming ill because of that.
There is another program which is very similar.
To RSI guide.
The thing is a virus.
I've got it, has nags at the pop-up, pop-ups and things like that.
But this is another solution which, is auto preventative, but he also uses the camera as well to help you [inaudible] opposition.
And it also has videos as well to help you sit properly.
I think I've got it installed.
This is probably the program.
I have had getting in the way of my other camera island.
[inaudible] the interface.
See that hopefully.
There we go because.
It's quite discrete interface once you set your posture, it will happily kind of minimize and disappear.
And it was working now, it's working.
So that's showing my center and then it's just distributed automatically.
So it should just disappear and you can carry on with your work.
And then after a period of time, if you start to move left and right, or if you start to lean forward slouching the interface, it will pop up.
If I move closer now you can see changes if you move too far out to the left or right after pair, that time, it will change color.
It will change to red color and alert you open up and saying, You're not sitting directly.
So there are a few different things in any you've got some learning videos which are quite cold.
Can you still think that the videos is [inaudible] my other screen It's only give me and you see it now.
That's a bit strange.
So it's going to pop up.
That's why time click on it again.
And then on what needs to change my sharing is caring.
Click one of them just to get an idea of how these are very useful visual guide to help you get set up properly.
And you've got ones for keyboard.
This is really is for reinforces that kind of understanding how to set correctly how into have there was how far away to have everything in my position.
 [inaudible] interactive tool so that the constantly remind you to keep rather than just do 1, then tick a box that you've complied.
Said legal requirement.
I've had beer here fastened every year.
Yeah.
It does.
It is radius was a visual very visual as in this not right.
There's loads of texts to read through it.
It's not like having to read manuals.
And things [inaudible] quick and easy to use.
It also works in multiple monitors.
Some of these solutions may not be able to cope with that with you put the camera on the top of your screen or you can use your laptop camera.
And what it will do is it will know you've got two screens if they won't say that, you're not stretching correctly if you're looking at on the screen.
For it.
So first kind of solution I've ever seen that uses AI to be able to help you manage your cluster properly.
And so it's a really good preventative tool.
And it's been developed with a lot of medical research.
I believe as well.
So they've got a lot of background research to [inaudible] does.
I think so you some reporting as well and send it back to them, but you cannot to only have it locally on your computer so it's not taking pictures view and send him over the Internet.
So local, we go on to the next slide.
[inaudible] on the bottom of this paper.
And you just touch them with the pen to the record button and it will start recording.
And you can't say [inaudible] I've got a piece of text.
That already on the screen so when you touch, when you actually touch the text on the page with a pen.
If the pin is on, we're not seeing your camera, Barry oh, no.
, I mean camera..
 yeah.
I'm going to send on.
Yeah.
 yeah.
I can.
Okay.
I'm not going [inaudible].
So yeah.
When you touch the read, we touch the writing on the page of the notes.
So you can touch different parts of text on the page instantly as a quick review and all at the same time, you want those notes that you've got the physical record of the notes.
You've got Digital Records.
In other words, on the page, which you can download the computer later.
And you've also got, the audio, which are synchronized with the the text as well.
So you can transfer it to the computer.
I might share my screen..
 somebody struggling to memory problem.
[inaudible] Thank you that [inaudible] much as they can, but also.
Cord into computation.
So you link the two together later It's really useful for people that have memory issues, can't capture and nothing formation, maybe even not able to write legible notes.
Because you can just scribble any kind of symbols and if you put a kind of a symbol, an important point of the meeting or something like that when somebody saying something you need to get it down recorded somehow, maybe you've just written a brief note.
This is going to capture the audio and also make reviewing much easier as well.
If you're going to.
 demonstrate it in my have to put you.
But on the pin, you on camera right there because at the moment you appear on a small window.
So appeal, going to demonstrate that can be need to stop sharing screen, so you cameras on you.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now that Yeah.
Into using it for review for maybe maybe searching for specific words because although it doesn't let you read that text out and use it I know there was a way around that.
You can just quickly search for notes as well.
And there are versions of this pen that Let's see on the utility is like there are no and things like that.
But this version that we're sending in is one that you download the files to a local computer so they're not sent over the Internet.
And if I just turn, the term is I'm just gonna share the screen because you can see the interface that the application has, which is this so there's all the can see the just said that the wrong screen.
When you [inaudible] computers, all your different notes books will you different types of that.
And what you can do is you can actually search for a piece of text, maybe to remember which is almost something like that.
And then they're all highlighted so you can go to a page and then leaving  remember that [inaudible] highlighting the text as the spacing as well.
 and if you do the same sort of thing here parts of the page and it will start playing fast.
So it's a really highly discrete sorts of device, really for, capturing that, not just it's not just a digital CodeWriter, it's a note-taking device.
[inaudible].
[inaudible] Helen, can you show the next slide, please?
This is a safe and another is a portable devices have useful device for dyslexic people, people that support when reading documents on the move.
It's a line scanner.
You can scan lines of printed text and it reads it out.
Built-in dictionary and the versions that way.
Becoming more popular in the workplace.
This is a subtour, motion of this pen, which doesn't have any storage on it.
Some versions of this pen have storage, so you can scan [inaudible] of texts, store them, transfer them to the computer.
There's also a version of this pen that doesn't have a dictionary.
And I was in an [inaudible] so it doesn't have addiction.
In I say just read up a word.
Most of the versions of have Collins Dictionary.
There is also a translated version of this pen as well.
And kind of [inaudible] that translate between two different language that anyone time.
But it comes with, I think nearly 20 different languages.
And GDPR compliant because it's got no storage in it but if you did want really other versions that you can connect to the computer and transfer the files, then it stores thousands of pages of text basically.
And then if I turn it on, just scan a lot of tests.
Which it's also voices.
The main use of voice as well.
So it's really supporting people have difficulty reading and it's also got different voices.
[inaudible] this one's got several  Barry can what this screen to show the pen.
 Documents are just let's read.
It's got a little marker on that.
The [inaudible] Press on the page.
[inaudible]  It does come to the little [inaudible] So yeah.
Okay.
That's very helpful.
So you can plug it in discrete in the in a busy.
See don't have to.
But with this particular pen or the text disappears.
So it's not going to let you record anybody's name or anything like that Next slide these products and its price.
If we've recommended that they are really useful for people, that suffer from visual stress.
Scotopic sensitivity, rarely in syndrome.
And you got ones with [inaudible] on them through as to help when reading text, physical text.
There are a few versions as well, and some people like to stick them on their screens, but we usually recommend using the overlay feature within something like claro Read which, emulates the same thing.
We can change all couple is and the base of T and things like that.
So next slide.
Magnifier.
Yes that's just a simple magnifying reader our current [inaudible] that I wrote that it's just literally a magnifying glass.
Handy, useful for just moving down the page.
It will highlight it.
It will just magnify that the line of text it's on useful for, reading and giving a place on the page and it's available in different sizes as well?
Yes.
[inaudible] which is [inaudible] they last a lot longer than even they come in different sizes.
You go very small ones, or even have kind of low.
Ones that you have a desk that portable.
So dependent on your requirements, and needs to be used on the move, or you need to use our desk there are many different voices in these some of them connected computers as women allowed scanning the text.
Yeah, there's so many different types usually we recommend them on [inaudible] assessments.
And what's worth anybody seen this for a [inaudible] while.
It's basically a little bit sort of camera that has a magnet that can attach to glasses.
And it takes a picture of texts.
Just read is just scan that in an instant and its rating it out.
It's got a camera at which recognizes gestures taxing on, the side which I've just paused it.
So you can always do reading.
You don't have to hold this piece of paper anymore.
[inaudible] That was the stop feature that so recognize gestures as well got a lot of information built into it.
It doesn't rely on internet connection.
It's got a big database of bar codes.
It recognizes so if he was using shops or you can even add your own products to this database.
So when it comes into view, it recognizes it as we can recognize faces, you can add people's faces to it so maybe if you're in a secure environment, you want to make sure you know that person's walking past is allowed be here things like that.
It supports different languages, support gestures.
It's very discrete if you don't want to have it with glasses.
Some people, their house.
Me, this the dependent on the type of visual impairment they got there may have a vision impairment where then they only have peripheral vision left.
So you don't want to be wearing a pair of glasses, but they've decided to be flexible.
So it comes with magnetics is on the inside of glasses, or it can even fit on a little landing on and hang around in there.
So you can just lift up when you need to very cool device.
That's the word.
I think it does get funded.
My sister [inaudible] we've sorted that way.
[inaudible].
 to pause and ask the question.
Yeah.
That's a  good timing for some of question.
Why were we the lot the.com [inaudible] the beginning?
The does the cpen work with print docs only?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Printed.
Text.
Only.
It doesn't recognize.
Yeah.
Does the all the camera work with their screening as well, oh.
 yes.
The all these will allow you to read Science.
[inaudible] tiny texts, text on a, mobile phone, text on a screen.
Very good.
And the fact that it's offline, super fast.
And there are other features on there.
When scanning a full paying to texts you can.
I demonstrated the pores, but you can skip the side controls quickly different parts of the document as well.
It doesn't store.
Anything that could version of the camera.
By people like scan the page and this will, this one's basically it's not got the facial recognition in it..
It has.
Like a really cool [inaudible] yeah, Very cool.
[inaudible] I think some of the applications for this just to bring it to life a bit, if you're blind and you go into your store cupboard and you've got a tin of tomato soup in and can of beans, you're not really going to know which is which.
But what this products will do is tell the person with product recognition what they're taking out their cupboards effectively.
We also had a nice story that one of the uses, because it follows fingerprints.
So it was the first time that they've been able to read along with their small child and with a book.
So it isn't extremely powerful piece of kit.
Total independence really reading, reading, reading printed material.
Question on life scribe, how easy is to replacement patch and how easy to translate images and drawing.
 the pad thing so you can buy, you can find paths you can even print.
I believe you can even print this paper using a PostScript printer.
To print that paper.
But where can you buy the paper you bought from us?
Remember as you can buy from [inaudible] for you to definitely buy online.
I know you can buy from Amazon.
If.
 you buy it from us and I have already given good in the link to our shop.
And the pictures things so I often show people they can draw, you can draw a picture of a sun or you can draw any kind of symbol.
You like and you can use it as a little memo reminder things you could draw a symbol, than, say something.
And then you tap that symbol later on it will just say, we'll, just play what you would call it.
Was really a as well aligns very much.
Now, how many hours battery life the pen, not.
And how long did it take to recharge?.
 I know it last whole day.
I was it take to [inaudible] I think it is from the 2, hours maybe 24 hours is not too long, but it's, at least two hours.
What's the protocol for using like scribe, pen in a meeting?
Do you?
Need to ask colleagues in the meeting for their permission to record note taking.
You can hit the technology I think it's different for every company some organizations don't like them.
Because they record audio some organizations don't like certain versions of the pen because they use Bluetooth.
They send the information over 11 00 but this one is the I can only allow us down.
The desktop.
I think it all down to the company policy security level and also reasonable adjustment.
It that way because you're using it from memory a, it's not different to somebody who actually remember the information.
Taken not condemning permission after meeting.
For most people accept it then, vibrate it, go for a person who has difficulty to capture that in different way but it always comes down to company policy and some security issues, which can be resolved if they read that policy of reviewing.
What is useful and how it down.
So it's possible to have that arrangement in place.
Now, one more thing.
How do you download the notes into your computer?
You have demonstrated that, [inaudible] doing the program that is just a little micro USB.
And this is it connects to the computer.
It will launch the software automatically and then sync.
More question for Mark Antony.
Define how the Joe's work when looking for a web page there are so many die that of fake or have at the patch is really good.
One Mark Antony, about accessibility and usability, which was just read the information you just know it regionally [inaudible] the additional Secure tagging information or webpages yeah.
Usually the problem is trying to navigate all elements of the webpage and get stuck in parts of the web page across the top of the bar on the left-hand side, you have difficulty getting to the content or this much content.
It takes a long time to get to them.
If  you give an analogy of George's walking into a room by got lots of furniture lying around.
Blind person, if moving in that room.
You could imagine, could trip over what's worth it to have a cane if you have something hanging at head level.
That they could tie into so these are the things that website are notoriously bad for.
They don't actually understand the user journey for somebody who is blind or visually impaired.
So they put all sorts of banners and also link in places where a individual has to navigate through in order to reach, them, which is really a very poor design and some blind friend of mine described going to sites like Amazon there are accessible yes it's show you can navigate your keyboard to don't need to use a mouse to do that, but it's just saying it's like walking into a very busy crowded, noisy with lots of light of a nightclub.
You're overwhelmed with so much information.
You just want to leave that very quickly.
So if their websites are not designed properly, then you are within risk of losing a lot of blind customers.
And that's why they're important for people to take note of the user experience and not just necessarily compliance with accessibility regulations.
And.
 there's another question, does live scribe work with a Mac?
Yes.
Yes.
Anyone that wants more detailed information on any of the products, just drop this drop us an email or will take the information from this presentation.
We will certainly provide whatever people would like.
We have half an hour left.
So let's move on to the rest of the cover.
And obviously we have some more questions at the end.
Okay dokey.
 Do you want to cover hearing?
Impairment or do you want to leave [inaudible] hearing.
?
Impairment we've covered that in a separate session in the future.
[inaudible] really quickly about it.
Yes.
Uh with an introduction to this session on the market will be doing so.
What one of the really interesting developments in assistive technology in recent years has been surrounding devices for hearing impaired individuals as necessary with we are doing a complete other session on this kind of things I just want is just a really kind of introduce it.
[inaudible] these devices here.
Roger, equipment, really, really useful, allow a hearing ideas that connect to these devices.
Readers allow improve clarity, if speech, especially noisy environments.
So we can use these devices if you're sitting at a meeting table, for example, you could put.
One of these devices, it might be the Roger table like the other end of the table.
And it will mean that you can pick up sound from another section of the room that you wouldn't be able to hear normally with your hearing aids, as they are.
And then things like the Roger pen, you can hang it around the presenters [inaudible] hear much more clearly in that way.
But yes, we are doing how other settings section on the hearing impaired devices because are really interesting in what they enable the hearing aid use it.
To do.
So that's what we will be doing another session.
Just lastly, now in the last section here is just, we're going to look at [inaudible] devices.
So certainly for individuals that maybe have developed an economic problem from using that computer workstation.
Often enough.
And certainly as we're seeing, would be the homework and environments in the moment that really is becoming quite prevalent.
So it's often we're thinking about other solutions.
Can be provided to help somebody that has these sorts of problems.
Repetitive strain injury in the wrist and the arms from using a mouse is a very common thing for all as all including myself, were often forced into a position with a mouse wherever we're using our hands in a very horizontal fashion.
And actually if you think about it with your arm, if you hold your arm up, the natural position of your arm is that a handshake kind of position so the modern thought now is to use a mouse.
Your hand in this position, much more neutral you're not twisting the bones in your arm and your wrist and we're already will help you to use that mouse for long periods of time without really causing you any problems.
Next slide, please.
Going on from that, again, using a different mode with your hands for those, again, gripping the mouse for long periods of time can really be difficult if you just think about you and if you're holding a tennis ball for four or five hours a day constantly without letting go of it.
You can imagine.
You'd think that that would be earned income an uncomfortable position for you to be in [inaudible] is doing that with mice all the time where we've got this funny kind of close grip on a mouse.
You saw for the vertical mouse, it's like some of better way.
But we can also use devices like track balls.
And then this rollable, I'm sorry, the role of bar mouse as well, which has a bar that fits kind of just in front of your cable that you can slide forwards to make the mouse, go backwards and forwards.
And slide the bar left and right.
To make them the masker, left and right.
But you're keeping your hands in a nice natural position without gripping and squeezing, kind of posture so much, much more health in of either way works and each sensor then operate the case on the roller ball either with your thumb or with your other hand as well.
So you're actually sharing the work across two hands, next slide please.
Again, for some of us are using computers, using the mouse and the keyboard for long periods of time where we can put a lot of stress on your forearm.
So we can provide items like this, which is the rest which is an articulated arm that it's hard to [inaudible] look for it for each individual.
So I get in the right position.
But it will support sort of just underneath layer elbow.
Is it will support your your arm but still give you freed of a movement to move your mouse around on the, on the keyboard.
So you're getting a lot more support there rather than just using.
Your arm rest on your chair, which you should do.
It does actually likely to be fully supported while you're using the mouse.
Because again, that's tends to be the problem with the mouse where as you're moving your arm, for always a backwards, it's losing contact with the on rest on your chair.
Next slide, please.
Thank you.
Let me come to keyboards.
And again, keyboards kind of forces into OT positions.
Been able to change that position of way, the way that your arms your hands are on the keyboard is again proven to be a really good thank you can see if few different examples here.
Such as the Microsoft 4 thousand people were hashed.
This kind of sculpted kind of k set.
Your arms again if you think about how your arms go to the keyboard, I'm going in usually at an angle.
You know your your left arm is coming in from left-hand side, the right for the right.
And your elbows are usually further out than where your risks are.
So that natural position of your hands is in that direction and that mode.
So people is generally because they're strike, we then tend to be bending our wrists and pulling our elbows in to torso It's a kind of get our arms into the right position.
So again, the modern thought is actually having a cable, keyboard the keys are much more spread out between the two halves of the keyboard but also angled as well in this way, we also see the split keyboard, which allows you to have that same thing that affords you a lot more flexibility is how you have that set both in the split of the table, but also the angle that it's angled up again, your, your, your, your, arms and hands tend to want to be more of an inclined angle, left to right rather than being flat on the keyboard itself.
And then lastly, we've got compact keyboards, which again giving you more space on your desk surface and allow you to actually move the mouse around more freely with an extended cable.
We tend to find people are reaching for their for their mice because there are over one much further place to the left or the right of their keyboard or so by having a keyboard that has a detachable numpad in this way, you can put that numpad in a position where you can get to it more easily or move it away when you're just using the mouse and you don't need to use the numpad at all.
Next slide, please.
Thank you.
Scott me back to cables, but this is not an ergonomic considerations that we add this to the people section because it is important as well.
But different types of keyboard for those with a visual impairments as well.
Often the standard cable that we have on a computer, the letters printed on the keyboard itself can sometimes be quite faint, difficult for those with a visual impairment to see so we can have a number of different types of cables with different color schemes.
So this particular one is.
On yellow scheme, which is tends to be accepted as a very, very easy color scheme to be able to see by those with a visual impairment.
But we have other versions as well.
So a white cable with very big black letters on them.
And yellow keys with black type on them as well.
Many different ways.
But really does help that [inaudible] individual just see those keys on the cable where otherwise they may struggle.
Also, this sort of a keyboard is much more tactile and the way that it is, modern keyboards tend to be him and laptops.
We have see of case.
As you saw, there from Barry demonstrating jaws, the keyboard is extremely important for Jaws, so that's the only mode using the computer.
So they need some tactility and the way that they weren't.
So you see that the case must be shaped you've got those function case in the traditional for kind of groupings, rather than having just a sea of.
You might have on the traditional laptop.
Slide, please.
This is a pen again.
Just a very small little bit adaptive device.
Again, we're talking about gripping.
If you have a problem with gripping, maybe do have carpal tunnel syndrome or RSI, something like that or maybe even problems like arthritis or Parkinson's.
Something where you really do find holding a traditional pen quite a difficult thing from that perspective it's really simple device.
The pen again, allows you to hold that pen, but you'll see that as you put your finger, if all finger actually allows us some stability on that pen itself really really clever little designed in that way.
Next slide, please.
Largely from this side of things for the chair, really important the way that we sit in chairs.
And certainly from going a range of things here, 0 from a very good.
Chair for those that have a problem with back problems with sitting for long periods of time in a standard office vice chair or as we say, many people working from home at the moment, a kitchen chair, which is never wishes, never ideal but there are many, right?
Many ranges of different type.
Chairs depending on the person's data disability, this is our my ergo chair that we have a pair which has many features on their very adjustable high the arms, changing the height of those.
We have things like Cox's cutouts on the chair as well for those that might have a coxic problem, a really supportive back with a number of different controls and that's a change the shape of the back to sue.
You.
Then we're going further still with things like a growl chair here that has a split back.
So again someone has a much more complex problem with back, maybe a scoliosis twisting of the spine.
This seat, as an independent sets of rests on the backs of allows you some twisting and but still giving you that support on the back.
But completely in one position.
And then lastly, for somebody that has a much more complex disability, we have things like the adapt lift chair here.
This is from the adapts range of chairs and this has many different features on it from an electrical lifting mechanism, so that you can change your height, very easily.
But it also allows you to stand from the chair as well if you found that actually standing up from the chair is normal height was very difficult.
This allows you to bring the chair much higher, but also allow you to tip the chair forward to assist you in better to actually move in and out of that..
Those chairs also allow you to have all sorts of different and adaptions.
As far as the console and the shape of the same.
And also things like heat pads, though integrated into the seat.
Should to have extra on your back to help you with a problem and [inaudible] as well as well to keep the blood circulation.
Most just sitting.
Next slide, please Helen.
And then finally, from the ergonomic side of things, the sit stand kind of mode many people are using now really very useful some people have dedicated sit stand sorts of the best within their office.
Office is now we have to change your posture throughout the day is a really good help for those that already have an existing problem.
Been able to change their posture really does help to keep your core strength and your blood flow going while you're working.
But also as a general day-to-day practice for all of us will we're tend to set our desks for long periods of time and forget about changing our posture throughout the day.
By using a sit-stand desk, it can really help.
Now, sometimes a sit-stand desk could be a difficult thing for some environments to install them in a home office environment, maybe you don't want to have a large sit-stand desk there.
So we often see we can supply things like the work fit here that you say, which is an adaption actually is a portable system can be taught.
Off the desk when you don't want to use it.
It's quite heavy, so I wouldn't necessarily say that we do that all the time, but it does allow you that flexibility of when you when you might be not wanting to use it or moving to a different environment.
You can move it around, quite easily and it allows you to stand up and use the computers you see that gentleman doing there.
But also sit down on your chair and use the computer in the traditional [inaudible] and I think that's probably the end of kind of that topic.
Fantastic Carl, thank you.
 for that.
I've got some question about 15 minutes.
I want to go through them quickly and to question.
Which is really important questions to ask.
So let me answer those and one of the main from [inaudible] my union members are now pre-launch and are the Hayward members are more likely to have free lunch?
Employee.
But my Cunningham.
Have supporting freelance not employed workers to achieve access to way.
Yeah, absolutely.
And fact, one, In fact of the offering and support we want to get to [inaudible] as well is to create, have helped us like access to a concierge service.
So what happens with when you go to access to work, the process is quite simple.
You apply if you qualify, if you have the condition, you get assess by contractor, which is usually RB ally or people plus the essential report, now, the fun begins after you get your report.
Because that needs to be converted into bind a equipment, having it installed, and then go back and claim your access to [inaudible].
Most companies, just other away, they really just don't like the process it's very clunky, very admin intensive, and sometimes they just give up.
So what [inaudible] is set up a special service that once the report is being received, all the recommendations will hate that as a one-stop shop and supply everything on that recommendation, including any support workers that you require.
In a way, we do this convexion on behalf of the employee so that the employed and have to get involved, it gets quite messy for employers.
So what we do is we take the recommendations, will provide all the equipment in one place rather than having to buy from several sources.
We will also help with claiming the funds back from to work so that the individual doesn't have to pay for it up front and then going back to access to work and claim it back, we can actually build access to work if we get the consent form sign.
And on top of that, we can organize the training.
So it happened soon after the installation and delivery of of equipment.
So either one-stop shop, Post access to work, it helps a lot about employers to actually get the job down rather than be bugged down with that internal restriction barriers.
Because most large companies can't buy from sources.
When Lily they have to get them approved.
And that's very difficult if you've got 10 supply, the or commended and access to work and you're working for NHS or you what can pull one up the government departments.
So best thing to do is shut up microwave as a single supplier.
And we convert everything in one go.
And obviously doesn't cost anymore because we will use the same prices.
That the access to work is approved.
So that makes life very simple.
And I'm the question from Pam and that you've looked into ergo chairs and they're expensive.
But certainly access to work with fund everything that [inaudible] has shown.
If you qualify for it and you get recommended, then definitely it will be funded by access to work, especially if you're a free lance, a 100 percent of the funding is paper access to work if it worked for a company, depending on the size of the company, they have to make some contribution is the first thousand pounds for a large company or 500 pounds for a medium company.
But the rest of it is only 20 percent from it.
80% comes from access to what.
But we will set up a special discount code for the members on our shop.
If they're I comes up [inaudible] members want to buy privately, then Anna can arrange a special discount code so they can buy from our shop at a discount.
And the question about ADHD uses Roger Pen, that.
Bit like we've described in their life scribe.
Well horses for courses, you know, if it does it work for that person, yes.
But live scribe, it's a special feature to make sure you take notes and that notice married off with of the voice.
But if you can't actually have a strategies in Roger pen, so [inaudible] that's a great idea.
One thing nasa was actually is the set of hearing aids for that the listed devices of the focus which is actually designed for that sort of thing.
Particularly children but it will work with adults as well where you have some hearing aids.
But they're not hearing aids.
They just did that just listening devices.
The pair up with the Japan and that all Eleni of the Roger devices.
And the good thing about that is allows you to listen without distraction.
And I think that's the thing with the.
Id HD side of things that it's allowed the individual to focus on one voice rather than having in a room or wherever in a meeting with a presenter, if there's other sounds as though distracting, then that can really help somebody with ADHD or any other kind of problem where they think they are distracted by other sounds.
Good point.
Thank you, Carl.
 [inaudible] question a lot of technologies you require extra time for purchasing and I'd read, and reason for adjustment this kind of stuff.
Adjustment ate harder for workers to achieve from their employer.
How do we unions argue for extra time for a judgment.
Some really great technology, but it's very good point.
Again, that had kind of a process of negotiation.
And I think sometimes as a trade unions, you get involved very late stage in a confrontational kind of a relationship.
You have to try to come on the side of the employee while it doesn't need to escalate that far if the line managers are informed of the benefit of reasonable adjustment of what it does to the productivity of individuals.
It allows them to perform that task.
Then that [inaudible] and allow on for them to take a bit more time.
It only really improves the productivity going from what currently standard about 30 percent to about 70 percent but as line managers probably expect 100 percent, nobody that a 100 percent.
We'd also suggest and organizations actually have a policy for line managers on nonces.
Close stuff just because often it's through kind of ignorance and sprouts and lack of wanting to support and then if there is a set policy in the company with a guide to nonphysical or, soft adjustments, they can be included on assessment reports.
And then it guidance can be given to line and a Jew, which we often give.
On how to put those in place for people.
 to be honest everything here, it really not jus about legal compliance.
Is or productivity.
If you.
Can get more out of your employees, then why, wouldn't you the cost effectively shouldn't be a barrier because.
Mainly funded either through access to work or if you do it in a really good and efficient way a cost is way before a left and a thousand pounds.
So just to turn around somebody's performance and make them much more productive and also not have absenteeism on your hands because that costs money.
Then I think it's a no brainer.
Have very smart thing to do for organization.
So I would say THE could be a good force for change and I dialogue with the employers to explain the benefits of adjustment is not just to make sure that you don't fall foul of the law and go to try [inaudible] all about making sure you harness that talent during employees are offering you an assistive technology that we showed you today will enable every individual to perform better, whether they have the condition or disability or whether they want to be even better, but they do.
We're able to make sure that that individual can perform at a higher level.
So I think that would be a very good way to break a deadlock between an employer and in conflict with an employee.
That said, I think we've got a lot we've covered today.
The three more sessions left this week.
We'll have at the important, very important subjects, specially one in five of the workforce might be neurodiverse, and they may not know about it, but the impact is nevertheless the same, causes a lot of performance issues and complex, which we can help to avoid if you know that, tell tells and the signs you can do something about it.
We have accessibility, a very, again, very important subject, for public sector, because it's a legal requirement, birth to a physical site, buildings, as well as the digital, your website, your communication.
That's going to be covered next week and we have one session for on hearing loss, hearing impaired.
And deaf solutions.
Very important because often impacts most people at senior age.
Also, deaf people are probably the lowest in terms of employment opportunities.
So I hope we will see you in the future sessions.
And meanwhile, we will have the recording of this session if you like to share with everyone.
And we are happy to take any questions and obviously post this meeting and clarified by email as well.
I'll leave to other presenters to have any more comments and we can close this session.
Nothing for me, Thank you for the nice comments.
And people on chat.
Yeah, these sessions technology does move the time and I think it is It's also, we spent a lot of time training organizations.
It departments because actually it's really important to engage.
With the right stakeholders in within an organization when you're talking about assistive technology.
One of the difficulties with access to work is that the recommendation is our control of the business.
And that means that things can be recommended that aren't necessarily able to be installed within an organization infrastructure.
So I think that the IT people within an organization are important to go on board if, if you're introducing and I want to these kinds of technology.
Okay.
, Well, I think that's a wrap up and thank you very much to the audience.
And looking forward to seeing you again this week with neurodiversity.
Tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow.
 at two o'clock Yes.
 thank you again, and  thank you.
And Verbit  thank you very much.
It's been a great help.
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